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Post by stcowata on Nov 13, 2017 6:24:14 GMT -5
seen loads of links over this past week about discussions between the Tolkien estate and warner bros(?) about a lotr tv show. what do you lot make of it? as a huge fan of Tolkiens books and films, im incredibly dubious about it. if they focus on what other characters were up to during the films, even if in a smaller sense, to fill in the gaps so to speak, i think it would be ok.
im interested in what other people think about it
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Post by stuartoxlade on Nov 13, 2017 6:31:13 GMT -5
We've already got Game of Thrones doing a better job. Don't see the need for this. Given how successful GoT is though, you can see why discussions have taken place
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Post by stcowata on Nov 13, 2017 6:34:43 GMT -5
We've already got Game of Thrones doing a better job. Don't see the need for this. Given how successful GoT is though, you can see why discussions have taken place but with game of thrones end in sight, do you not think it would be perfect timing (in point of view of developers etc) to release an old yet new series to get the same fans on board? i personally think theres not enough GOOD fantasy films or tv shows, most are low budget, poor actors, whatever, but thats cus im a nerd on that stuff EDIT- i just read your post again so apologies for being a dingbat. |
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Post by grimkvnt on Nov 13, 2017 7:22:44 GMT -5
I'm excited to see who they cast for this show if it makes it to the drawing board!
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Post by sirmoshington on Nov 13, 2017 8:34:44 GMT -5
I don't know LOTR was probably one of the few trilogies which was flawless, so why potentially ruin it? I could definitely see a focus on different stories from the Silmarillion, that I would love.
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Post by stuartoxlade on Nov 13, 2017 8:54:38 GMT -5
We've already got Game of Thrones doing a better job. Don't see the need for this. Given how successful GoT is though, you can see why discussions have taken place but with game of thrones end in sight, do you not think it would be perfect timing (in point of view of developers etc) to release an old yet new series to get the same fans on board? i personally think theres not enough GOOD fantasy films or tv shows, most are low budget, poor actors, whatever, but thats cus im a nerd on that stuff EDIT- i just read your post again so apologies for being a dingbat. Fair point. Having said that, I bet there's plenty of fantasy novels that are similar that could also be adapted given how popular GoT is. |
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Post by thewonderbeard on Nov 13, 2017 9:14:44 GMT -5
but with game of thrones end in sight, do you not think it would be perfect timing (in point of view of developers etc) to release an old yet new series to get the same fans on board? i personally think theres not enough GOOD fantasy films or tv shows, most are low budget, poor actors, whatever, but thats cus im a nerd on that stuff EDIT- i just read your post again so apologies for being a dingbat. Fair point. Having said that, I bet there's plenty of fantasy novels that are similar that could also be adapted given how popular GoT is. Isn't the problem with these fantasy shows generally that they're pretty hit or miss? So few of them do well enough that studios would much rather go with the tried and tested IPs with good brand recognition than bet on something new. Unless you're talking about Netflix, Amazon or Apple, other studios (even HBO) generally have to pick their battles pretty carefully. |
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Post by stuartoxlade on Nov 13, 2017 10:04:32 GMT -5
Fair point. Having said that, I bet there's plenty of fantasy novels that are similar that could also be adapted given how popular GoT is. Isn't the problem with these fantasy shows generally that they're pretty hit or miss? So few of them do well enough that studios would much rather go with the tried and tested IPs with good brand recognition than bet on something new. Unless you're talking about Netflix, Amazon or Apple, other studios (even HBO) generally have to pick their battles pretty carefully. Yeah it's still unbelievable that GoT is as successful as it has been. True case of 'word of mouth' in action. I remember hearing it was a show with swords in it and it put me off straight away but glad I gave it a go in the end |
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Post by thewonderbeard on Nov 13, 2017 10:10:20 GMT -5
Isn't the problem with these fantasy shows generally that they're pretty hit or miss? So few of them do well enough that studios would much rather go with the tried and tested IPs with good brand recognition than bet on something new. Unless you're talking about Netflix, Amazon or Apple, other studios (even HBO) generally have to pick their battles pretty carefully. Yeah it's still unbelievable that GoT is as successful as it has been. True case of 'word of mouth' in action. I remember hearing it was a show with swords in it and it put me off straight away but glad I gave it a go in the end There are still loads of people who haven't watched it (and won't stop reminding all of us) for that exact reason. It's pretty difficult to actually explain to people what it's actually about. I think that's part of the appeal, to be honest. |
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Post by stuartoxlade on Nov 13, 2017 10:34:48 GMT -5
Yeah it's still unbelievable that GoT is as successful as it has been. True case of 'word of mouth' in action. I remember hearing it was a show with swords in it and it put me off straight away but glad I gave it a go in the end There are still loads of people who haven't watched it (and won't stop reminding all of us) for that exact reason. It's pretty difficult to actually explain to people what it's actually about. I think that's part of the appeal, to be honest. I guess that's like saying I won't watch Friday Night Lights as I don't like Football even though it's more about the life and pressures of a small town in Texas as opposed to sports. |
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Post by petarrgh on Nov 13, 2017 11:57:42 GMT -5
I could get behind this...besides GOT are there any other good medieval/fantasy TV shows from over the years? I remember loving the 'lion the witch and the wardrobe' 80s or early 90s TV show as a kid...yer boi
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Post by avarice on Nov 13, 2017 12:13:33 GMT -5
As cool as Tolkien is, this is unnecessary. The lore is too complex, they would inevitably botch something or contradict the established lore. Also there's really no way they could do a better job than PJ so it's just silly to try.
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Post by avarice on Nov 13, 2017 12:16:26 GMT -5
I don't know LOTR was probably one of the few trilogies which was flawless, so why potentially ruin it? I could definitely see a focus on different stories from the Silmarillion, that I would love. There is a ton of good shit they could try to adapt, but they'd probably just focus on Tom Bombadil or something. I just couldn't see the thousands of years of lore compressed into hour-long episodes that lead to a satisfying conclusion. It's just not written that way. |
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Post by Zeke on Nov 13, 2017 12:41:34 GMT -5
As much as I love LoTR and initially I was like "ooohh yes please!", I totally agree with sirmoshington |
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Post by sirmoshington on Nov 13, 2017 14:03:03 GMT -5
I don't know LOTR was probably one of the few trilogies which was flawless, so why potentially ruin it? I could definitely see a focus on different stories from the Silmarillion, that I would love. There is a ton of good shit they could try to adapt, but they'd probably just focus on Tom Bombadil or something. I just couldn't see the thousands of years of lore compressed into hour-long episodes that lead to a satisfying conclusion. It's just not written that way. Yeah I thought of doing it the AHS does it or True Detective. That is the only format I think could work. You know pick one story and do one season with it or maybe two depending on how long it is. But lets be real, they are not going to do that and probably just going to fuck it up. |
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